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Tuesday, August 15, 2017

She's a Marshmallow

Episode 1.1: Pilot. Original Airdate 9.22.04

"Meet Veronica Mars. Your typical high school student and private eye. A year ago, Veronica's best friend Lilly was murdered. Her father, Keith, then the town sheriff, accused Lilly's billionaire father of the murder. When another man confessed, Keith was booted from office. All of Veronica's friends stopped talking to her, and her mother left town. But as Veronica starts her junior year of high school, it becomes clear that nothing about her life is what it seems."

Daniel's Thoughts:

  • OMG! I’m so excited to start this!
  • I love that Veronica narrates this.  She’s so good.  It’s very film noir.
  • This will be a bit different than recapping Buffy since we're not as obsessed with this show, we don't know it inside and out.
  • Kristen Bell is so young!
  • Hey, it’s Weevil! 
  • Ooh, they’re doing a "20 hours earlier" thing.
  • Kristen Bell’s hair is so short. It looks cute.
  • BTW, if you want the true brilliance of Kristen Bell, check out The Good Place.  Start with season one.  It’s seriously good. [I second this recommendation. - Z]
  • Aww, Wallace.  He’s like the Xander of this show. (But much more likable)
  • I love how smart Veronica is. 
  • She’s like book smart AND street smart!
  • I know it’s the 2000s but, man the fashions are so 90s grunge
  • I used to own ALL OF those flannels.
  • Hey Veronica is making a friend: Wallace!
  • Did Lamb just smell Wallace? He did.
  • There’s a lot of flashbacks in this episode. Actually, I guess most episodes this season.
  • They’re taking more time with this pilot than I remember.  I like that.  It’s something that iZombie, Rob Thomas’ newest,  didn’t do as well.
  • Darran Norris, as Cliff is in iZombie as a lecherous news anchor
  • I love Veronica’s patter with her dad.  It’s one of my favorite things about the show.
  • I mean, all the patter is pretty good.  Great writing.
  • Lilly Kane!  Our first dead human.

  • This is the first moment where we see Logan’s depth.  From the loss of Lilly.  Of course he’s a dick for blaming Veronica and Keith.
  • Veronica can take care of herself. I love Back-up & the taser
  • Weevil: “And your little dog, too.”  That’s the 2nd Wizard of Oz reference this episode.
  •  Kristen Bell does a lot of comedy now and she’s so damn good at it.  But she’s really good at drama too.  I’d love to see her in some more serious movies.  She’s a really talented actor.
  • I wonder whose football team would win The Pirates vs. the Razorbacks.
  • Aww, Wallace is s a good guy.  I wish they explored his character more than they did.
  • I’m kinda impressed that a lot of the recurring characters came from the pilot – though Z and I are having trouble tracking them all and remembering their names.  Good thing we have the interwebs.
  • Tonight we eat like the lower-middle class to which we aspire.”
  • Clue: Keith recognizes the license plate of the woman Jake Kane was visiting.  Ooh.
  • I love Veronica’s intricate plans.
  • And this is why we hate Sheriff Lamb.  His incompetence is one thing, but even more horrible is his vile, inhumane lack of compassion.  The way he acts when Veronica is raped is beyond reprehensible.
  • Third Wizard of Oz reference.
  • Aww, Wallace calls Veronica a Marshmallow.  And the fan name is born!
  • OMG, Logan’s surfer necklace.  These were so popular with guys back then.  I had one….well my then-boyfriend had one that I used to wear.
All The Cool Kids in 2004 Wore These

  • Z and I had our fights about who Buffy should be with – but we won’t be having any here.  There’s one person for Veronica: Logan Freaking Echolls.
  • As much of an asshole  as he is now…
  • “I rented the South Park movie.” “My favorite”  Heh.
  • But also, remember rental stores?

Zelda's Thoughts:

  • you guys I'm so excited to start a new show!
  • hmmm apparently the only option we have is the extended version of the pilot, which includes a different opening (Veronica on stakeout with a flashback frame vs. starting in the school with Wallace taped up)
  • "I'm never getting married." Me neither, Veronica. Well, probably not.
  • I kinda forgot how noir this show is
  • Veronica's taking calculus as a Junior! She's just like me! I wonder if present Veronica remembers any calculus but I super don't.
  • aw man I'm getting nostalgia for a motorcycle gang because WEEVIL
  • hi Weevil
  • "If you go here, your parents are either millionaires or your parents work for millionaires." I think this was kind of the situation at the school I went to for the two years I lived in LA, but I was too young to really clock it. You were either rich or your parents worked at UCLA (I was the second one)
  • aw Veronica. bitter, party of one
  • "Random locker searches ... I know when they're gonna happen before Vice Principal Clemmons does." haha I love her
  • omg when she shushes Buster, the drug search dog
  • haha and then her locker is completely empty except for a picture of VP Clemmons in the shape of a heart
  • man, I wonder how different the trajectory of this show would have been if they'd hired an interesting actor to play Duncan
  • and the fact that they weren't intending to give Logan the growth that the actor ended up kind of earning
  • VM is already doing better than Buffy on diversity, with Weevil and Wallace among its regular cast
  • aw, even Wallace gets his voiceover flashbacks. It's not just for our protagonist!
  • Wallace is so cute with his remote control plane. Be his friend, Veronica!
  • Cliff McCormack! yesssssssssssss I love this guy! and I like his character here way more than his character on iZombie
  • this post will consist entirely of me flailing excitedly to see all our players
  • "When you go after Jake Kane" - I love that Keith knows that even though he told Veronica to not touch the Kane case, and she agreed, they both know she will anyway
  • and we get the beginnings of the Lilly Kane mystery
innocent flashback Veronica hair: so long, so not-yet-bitter

  • Jason Dohring already acting circles around Duncan 
  • "And your little dog, too!" did someone tell Weevil that this is the episode where Don Lamb tells everyone to go see the wizard?
  • man, poor Veronica. to wake up not knowing what happened, but that something happened
  • "I'm no longer that girl."
  • "Well, I figure I've got a choice. I can either go hang out with the punks who laughed at me, took pictures of me while I was taped to that flagpole, or I can hang out with the chick who cut me down." yay the beginning of Wallace/Veronica friendship!
  • I have to give major props to the society-building going on. Nearly every character who has a line in the pilot is a recurring character - it's a massive network of people the show is putting in place for the series, and it makes things seem realer. We've got deputies and classmates from different social castes, various authority figures, and our flashback gang.
  • "Tonight we eat like the lower middle class to which we aspire!" man, I love Enrico Colantoni. He is a pure hammy delight
  • weird, a song I recognize! Don't fear the reaper, Marses!
  • man, I love Veronica's convoluted fix - frame Logan with a bong, set said bong off in evidence holding, arrange a video switch, and get Weevil's gang off Wallace's back
  • oof, I hate when the Marses aren't honest with each other. You can see how much it hurts both of them.
  • fuck you, Don Lamb. not even going to order a rape kit for the girl who was raped. Just mock her and refuse to go after anyone at the party because they're all rich.
  • hey guys remember videotapes?
  • "But underneath that angry young woman shell, there's a slightly less angry young woman who's just dying to bake me something. You're a marshmallow, Veronica Mars. A twinkie."
  • hey Logan, FUCK YOU. smashing up the lights on a car when you know she probably can't afford to fix it
  • Weevil to the rescue! I love that now that she saved two of Weevil's boys, he's here to help defend her against Logan and his goons. Aw man, he's even going to make sure her car gets fixed.
  • I do love that neither Keith nor Veronica have given up on the Lilly Kane murder. They both know it's not as simple as the Kanes paid to make it look.

Favorite Lines:

Daniel: "Tonight we eat like the lower middle class to which we aspire! - Keith Mars
Zelda: "You're a marshmallow, Veronica Mars." - Wallace


  • Neptune Roll Call: Weevil, Wallace, Logan, Duncan
  • First appearance: Vice Principal Clemmons, Deputy Jerry Sacks, Felix Toombs, Hector, Sheriff Don Lamb, Lianne Mars, Cliff McCormack, Celeste Kane, Lilly Kane, Jake Kane, Abel Koontz, Corny, Inga the receptionist
  • Veronica's Alias: Inga the receptionist


Dead Humans - 1
Backup Sighting - 1
Veronica Breaks In - 1
Veronica Tases Someone - 1
Mac Hacks - 0
Who's Your Daddy? - 2
Wallace Does Veronica a Favor - 0
Logan Punches Someone - 0
Dick's Single Entendres - 0
Shenanigans Called - 0


  1. I love this show almost as much as I love Buffy. It definitely has a way stronger pilot episode and I love all of the characters.

    YES to the Veronica/Logan shipping. I hated him when I first watched this show. I did not see their pairing coming and I certainly didn't expect to ship it as hard as I did. This show did such an awesome job of developing Logan and taking him from over the top villain to charming anti-hero type. It's hard to sell me on the idea of a rakish asshole being charming, Gilmore Girls attempted it and failed miserably with their own Logan but no one can match the awesome balance of Logan Echolls.

    1. yessssssss join us in our shipping of LoVe! (I did not make this ship name up)

  2. Yay! My ship was Mac and Weevil for this show. LoVe was my secondary ship.